question, L1 L2 and L3

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gollum@f-m.fm
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question, L1 L2 and L3

Post by gollum@f-m.fm » Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:01 pm

Hi All;Guy here.  I have purchased all the necessary parts from MiniCircuits and am in the process of ordering parts from DigiKey.  There are many parts that are now obsolete, but I have readily found substitutions.  I however have not found a substitution for 2 parts, 2 inductors of 10uh and 33uh (L1, L2, L3) supposedly located in the Voltage converter section according to the spreadsheet I am using from the 2016 Group Build created by Stew.  Stew also sent me the boards.  Question:1. I cannot find L1,L2,L3 of these values on the schematics on Scotty's site (I might be going blind or overlooked something).  These are supposed to be in the Voltage Convertor section.2. The schematics that correspond to the March 2016 build I am assuming that they are correct on Scotty's site?  Do I have the most correct schematics?3. I intend to build a Parallel to serial convertor too.
Here are the parts I have yet to find a substitution for: (1008 size or 2520 metric)























83
PLSIM-CB-NV  Rev D-MJK
L1
10 uH
ELJ-PC100MF3
P15203CT-ND
0.46
Voltage Converter Section


84
PLSIM-CB-NV  Rev D-MJK
L2
33 uH
ELJ-PC330KF
PCD1096CT-ND
0.27
Voltage Converter Section


85
PLSIM-CB-NV  Rev D-MJK
L3
33 uH
ELJ-PC330KF
PCD1096CT-ND
0.27
Voltage Converter Section



I am trying to locate these parts so that I can look at the pads and dimensions... to be able to fit a part in..Panasonic is no longer making these.
Anyway.. still going strong!  1. Boards in hand, MiniCircuits parts obtained.. I had 2 new AD9850's on hand from a sample requested many years ago.. 2. Ordering the rest of the parts soon.. once I get the remaining inductors determined (see above)3. Once done I will publish the parts list and Digikey #'s
Hope this finds everyone well!
Best Regards;Guy (N1GMM)

gollum@f-m.fm
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Re: question, L1 L2 and L3

Post by gollum@f-m.fm » Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:05 pm





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I meant Parallel to USB2-3 . ;-/







On Tue, Apr 10, 2018, at 12:01 PM, [url=mailto:gollum@... t=_blank]gollum@...[/url] [spectrumanalyzer] wrote:

 


Hi All;
Guy here.  I have purchased all the necessary parts from MiniCircuits and am in the process of ordering parts from DigiKey.  There are many parts that are now obsolete, but I have readily found substitutions.  I however have not found a substitution for 2 parts, 2 inductors of 10uh and 33uh (L1, L2, L3) supposedly located in the Voltage converter section according to the spreadsheet I am using from the 2016 Group Build created by Stew.  Stew also sent me the boards.  Question:
1. I cannot find L1,L2,L3 of these values on the schematics on Scotty's site (I might be going blind or overlooked something).  These are supposed to be in the Voltage Convertor section.
2. The schematics that correspond to the March 2016 build I am assuming that they are correct on Scotty's site?  Do I have the most correct schematics?
3. I intend to build a Parallel to serial convertor too.

Here are the parts I have yet to find a substitution for: (1008 size or 2520 metric)


83
PLSIM-CB-NV  Rev D-MJK
L1
10 uH
ELJ-PC100MF3
P15203CT-ND
0.46
Voltage Converter Section
84
PLSIM-CB-NV  Rev D-MJK
L2
33 uH
ELJ-PC330KF
PCD1096CT-ND
0.27
Voltage Converter Section
85
PLSIM-CB-NV  Rev D-MJK
L3
33 uH
ELJ-PC330KF
PCD1096CT-ND
0.27
Voltage Converter Section

I am trying to locate these parts so that I can look at the pads and dimensions... to be able to fit a part in..
Panasonic is no longer making these.

Anyway.. still going strong!  
1. Boards in hand, MiniCircuits parts obtained.. I had 2 new AD9850's on hand from a sample requested many years ago.. 
2. Ordering the rest of the parts soon.. once I get the remaining inductors determined (see above)
3. Once done I will publish the parts list and Digikey #'s

Hope this finds everyone well!

Best Regards;
Guy (N1GMM)










John Penwarden
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Re: question, L1 L2 and L3

Post by John Penwarden » Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:35 pm

Attachments :[/list]
Hi Guy,
The circuit you are looking for is the attached *.schfile.  You need to download Express sw to view it.
John





On Tuesday, 10 April 2018, 17:05:28 BST, gollum@... [spectrumanalyzer] wrote:






 












I meant Parallel to USB2-3 . ;-/



On Tue, Apr 10, 2018, at 12:01 PM, [url=mailto:gollum@... t=_blank]gollum@...[/url] [spectrumanalyzer] wrote:
 
Hi All;Guy here.  I have purchased all the necessary parts from MiniCircuits and am in the process of ordering parts from DigiKey.  There are many parts that are now obsolete, but I have readily found substitutions.  I however have not found a substitution for 2 parts, 2 inductors of 10uh and 33uh (L1, L2, L3) supposedly located in the Voltage converter section according to the spreadsheet I am using from the 2016 Group Build created by Stew.  Stew also sent me the boards.  Question:1. I cannot find L1,L2,L3 of these values on the schematics on Scotty's site (I might be going blind or overlooked something).  These are supposed to be in the Voltage Convertor section.2. The schematics that correspond to the March 2016 build I am assuming that they are correct on Scotty's site?  Do I have the most correct schematics?3. I intend to build a Parallel to serial convertor too.Here are the parts I have yet to find a substitution for: (1008 size or 2520 metric)83PLSIM-CB-NV  Rev D-MJKL110 uHELJ-PC100MF3P15203CT-ND0.46Voltage Converter Section84PLSIM-CB-NV  Rev D-MJKL233 uHELJ-PC330KFPCD1096CT-ND0.27Voltage Converter Section85PLSIM-CB-NV  Rev D-MJKL333 uHELJ-PC330KFPCD1096CT-ND0.27Voltage Converter SectionI am trying to locate these parts so that I can look at the pads and dimensions... to be able to fit a part in..Panasonic is no longer making these.Anyway.. still going strong!  1. Boards in hand, MiniCircuits parts obtained.. I had 2 new AD9850's on hand from a sample requested many years ago.. 2. Ordering the rest of the parts soon.. once I get the remaining inductors determined (see above)3. Once done I will publish the parts list and Digikey #'sHope this finds everyone well!Best Regards;Guy (N1GMM)














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STEVEN NYUL
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Re: question, L1 L2 and L3

Post by STEVEN NYUL » Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:48 pm

Hi Guy,
I did a quick search on Digikey for the inductors:For ELJ-PC330KF the replacement part number would be  445-1759-1-ND
For ELJ-PC100MF3 the replacement part number would be 445-6643-1-ND
I think the above parts would work. I based on my search on the original part number and I admit have not looked into the actual schematics. If you publish the Digikey BOM, I will start building the boards I bought a few years ago...:)
73!SteveVE3USP

From: "gollum@... [spectrumanalyzer]"
To: "gollum@... [spectrumanalyzer]"
Sent:[/b] Tuesday, April 10, 2018 12:05 PM
Subject:[/b] Re: [spectrumanalyzer] question, L1 L2 and L3


 












I meant Parallel to USB2-3 . ;-/



On Tue, Apr 10, 2018, at 12:01 PM, [url=mailto:gollum@... t=_blank]gollum@...[/url] [spectrumanalyzer] wrote:
 
Hi All;Guy here.  I have purchased all the necessary parts from MiniCircuits and am in the process of ordering parts from DigiKey.  There are many parts that are now obsolete, but I have readily found substitutions.  I however have not found a substitution for 2 parts, 2 inductors of 10uh and 33uh (L1, L2, L3) supposedly located in the Voltage converter section according to the spreadsheet I am using from the 2016 Group Build created by Stew.  Stew also sent me the boards.  Question:1. I cannot find L1,L2,L3 of these values on the schematics on Scotty's site (I might be going blind or overlooked something).  These are supposed to be in the Voltage Convertor section.2. The schematics that correspond to the March 2016 build I am assuming that they are correct on Scotty's site?  Do I have the most correct schematics?3. I intend to build a Parallel to serial convertor too.Here are the parts I have yet to find a substitution for: (1008 size or 2520 metric)83PLSIM-CB-NV  Rev D-MJKL110 uHELJ-PC100MF3P15203CT-ND0.46Voltage Converter Section84PLSIM-CB-NV  Rev D-MJKL233 uHELJ-PC330KFPCD1096CT-ND0.27Voltage Converter Section85PLSIM-CB-NV  Rev D-MJKL333 uHELJ-PC330KFPCD1096CT-ND0.27Voltage Converter SectionI am trying to locate these parts so that I can look at the pads and dimensions... to be able to fit a part in..Panasonic is no longer making these.Anyway.. still going strong!  1. Boards in hand, MiniCircuits parts obtained.. I had 2 new AD9850's on hand from a sample requested many years ago.. 2. Ordering the rest of the parts soon.. once I get the remaining inductors determined (see above)3. Once done I will publish the parts list and Digikey #'sHope this finds everyone well!Best Regards;Guy (N1GMM)














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gollum@f-m.fm
Posts: 32
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Re: question, L1 L2 and L3

Post by gollum@f-m.fm » Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:49 pm





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Hi John,

Thanks!  I'll take a gander.

-Guy




On Tue, Apr 10, 2018, at 1:34 PM, John Penwarden [url=mailto:penwardenj@... t=_blank]penwardenj@...[/url] [spectrumanalyzer] wrote:

 




Hi Guy,



The circuit you are looking for is the attached *.sch

file.  You need to download Express sw to view it.



John

On Tuesday, 10 April 2018, 17:05:28 BST, gollum@... [spectrumanalyzer] wrote:





 


I meant Parallel to USB2-3 . ;-/







On Tue, Apr 10, 2018, at 12:01 PM, [url=mailto:gollum@... t=_blank]gollum@...[/url] [spectrumanalyzer] wrote:

 


Hi All;
Guy here.  I have purchased all the necessary
parts from MiniCircuits and am in the process of ordering parts from
DigiKey.  There are many parts that are now obsolete, but I have
readily found substitutions.  I however have not found a
substitution for 2 parts, 2 inductors of 10uh and 33uh (L1, L2, L3)
supposedly located in the Voltage converter section according to the
spreadsheet I am using from the 2016 Group Build created by Stew. 
Stew also sent me the boards.  Question:
1. I cannot find
L1,L2,L3 of these values on the schematics on Scotty's site (I might be
going blind or overlooked something).  These are supposed to be in
the Voltage Convertor section.
2. The schematics that correspond to
the March 2016 build I am assuming that they are correct on Scotty's
site?  Do I have the most correct schematics?
3. I intend to
build a Parallel to serial convertor too.

Here are the parts I have yet to find
a substitution for: (1008 size or 2520 metric)


83
PLSIM-CB-NV  Rev D-MJK
L1
10 uH
ELJ-PC100MF3
P15203CT-ND
0.46
Voltage Converter
Section
84
PLSIM-CB-NV  Rev D-MJK
L2
33 uH
ELJ-PC330KF
PCD1096CT-ND
0.27
Voltage Converter Section
85
PLSIM-CB-NV  Rev D-MJK
L3
33 uH
ELJ-PC330KF
PCD1096CT-ND
0.27
Voltage Converter
Section

I am trying to locate these parts so that I can look at the pads
and dimensions... to be able to fit a part in..
Panasonic is no longer making these.

Anyway.. still going strong!  
1. Boards in hand,
MiniCircuits parts obtained.. I had 2 new AD9850's on hand from a
sample requested many years ago.. 
2. Ordering the rest of the parts soon..
once I get the remaining inductors determined (see above)
3. Once done I will
publish the parts list and Digikey #'s

Hope this finds everyone well!

Best Regards;
Guy (N1GMM)
























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valehope03
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Re: question, L1 L2 and L3

Post by valehope03 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:16 am

Just for kicks, these were the parts I used:
LBC2518T110K     587-1936-1-ND
LBC2518T330K     587-5563-1-ND
So far so good with them but I have to be honest, I haven't built the PLOs yet so I don't know if I have an issue yet.
Thanks,
Dave K. 

STEVEN NYUL
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Re: question, L1 L2 and L3

Post by STEVEN NYUL » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:31 am

I do not think I am fully qualified to say a definite 'yes' or 'no' as I have not seen the schematic and have not built the PLO yet, but if these inductors are used as a choke in a supply line, then almost any 10uH and 33uH inductor would do. My preference would be a shielded type. 
SteveVE3USP

From:[/b] "Valehope03@... [spectrumanalyzer]"
To: spectrumanalyzer@yahoogroups.com
Sent:[/b] Tuesday, April 10, 2018 10:16 PM
Subject:[/b] [spectrumanalyzer] Re: question, L1 L2 and L3


 









Just for kicks, these were the parts I used:LBC2518T110K     587-1936-1-NDLBC2518T330K     587-5563-1-NDSo far so good with them but I have to be honest, I haven't built the PLOs yet so I don't know if I have an issue yet.Thanks,Dave K. 









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Re: question, L1 L2 and L3

Post by gollum@f-m.fm » Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:03 am

Hi Steve,I should have the BOM ready in the next day or so.  You will have to change some of the quantities as I did order some extra parts.. But that is easy to do.  I will take a look at the inductors.  I will put it up on the file area as well as send you a direct link to Digikey with a stored BOM.
Best Regards;Guy

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Re: question, L1 L2 and L3

Post by gollum@f-m.fm » Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:56 am

Thanks!  for this info. Dave!  

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Re: question, L1 L2 and L3

Post by gollum@f-m.fm » Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:56 am

These parts are perfect!  I dont know why I missed them.
-Guy

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